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"Michael" == Michael StJohns <mstjohns(_at_)mindspring(_dot_)com> writes:
Michael> and the city and people of Vienna, and more as I think it was
Michael> intended - a critique of the site and facilities as they relate
Michael> to serving the needs of the IETF. The person who started the
Michael> discussion made at least three separate points related to the
Michael> facilities - at no time did he impugn or otherwise denigrate
Michael> Vienna, the people of Vienna, or the local host.
I want to concur with this.
I actually have no problem with having my room further from the conference
centre. When there is an official hotel, I find it annoying to not be in
the conference hotel - but with everyone having to travel, it is much
more equitable.
I found the S-Bahn convenient, cheap and fast. It stopped running
on me Wednesday night (12:30pm exit), but that was okay. I intend to spend
Saturday visiting the end of each line for fun. (Okay, I'm a train nut)
Michael> We've had meetings with geographic separation before - mostly
Michael> this causes problems in the formation of the usual IETF bar
Michael> BOFs. Going back to the beginning of the IETF, much of the
Michael> small group discussion at the IETF has taken place after or
Michael> between the session in and around the bar at the conference
Michael> hotel. Quite a lot of the ideas which have made it into the
So, I want to echo this and emphasis this point.
The lack of a bar with nice seats that would be open to reasonable hours
(i.e. midnight) really hurt. Things seemed to close very early downtown,
or at least open places were hard to find.
Michael> I do want to echo Randy Bush and others with thanks to the host
Michael> for an excellent wireless system and network. I didn't have to
Yes... it just worked. Thank you to Telekom Austria.
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