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Re: Re: A new technique to anti spam

2004-10-23 18:55:28
Dave Aronson, 你好!
This new tech is compatible with the other anti-spam techniques(Such as 
filterings)
Do you notice the structure of mail-location in the new-tech?
Such as:
X-MPTR:svr=192.168.95.100;port=9110;id=20040707230823.GA29023;
    md=1732457bac7b4d141732457bac7b4d14;size=2573;spam=20%

The last parameter is \"spam\".It means the posibility of \"this email is a 
junk-mail\" is 20%.
Where the value is from?
It\'s because the new-tech work together with filterings on the sender smtp 
server.
No like traditional server,the receiver server filter the mail after getting it.
The new tech wish the step of sending email-pointer shows the posibility of a 
spam.
So the receiver judge the spam not only by human attention.
(The receiver can configure the value to let system filter ones above this 
value automatically)

About the development of the new-tech.
First phase,Some huge ESPs turn to use the new-tech,cause them to avoid to 
receive spam each other
Second phase,to stop the new-tech be compatible with the traditional tech.
(Becasue most of spammers are use their own pc to make spam,and the new-tech 
won\'t allow people use pc to be a smtp server,as I wrote the new-tech will 
share an authority IPs database on Internet)


----你于 2004/10/23 23:29:41 的来信中写到:----

\"test\" <test(_at_)fjau(_dot_)edu(_dot_)cn> wrote:

 > Notes:If server dones\'t supports new tech,just do it as traditional
 > server.

In other words, the old way must still be supported.  Therefore, the flow 
of spam can (and therefore will) continue unabated, so long as the 
spammers use the old way.

Furthermore, even if adopted by spammers, your way will only save a bit 
of computer communication bandwidth.  However, that capacity keeps 
growing by leaps and bounds every year, and has become dirt-cheap, at 
least in bulk or compared to years past.  The real cost of spam is the 
*human attention* bandwidth!  That capacity grows at negligible speed.  
If your \"technology\" relies on human judgement, especially from the end 
recipient, to say what is spam or not, then it is doing absolutely 
nothing to save human attention bandwidth.

What is needed is some way that will stop spam even if neither the 
spammers nor most legitimate senders adopt the new way, and before the 
vast majority of the spam is ever seen by the recipient.  It need not be 
perfect; it need only reduce the flood to a trickle.  However, it should 
be as perfect as possible in NOT generating false POSITIVES, which can 
be a kiss of death for a business.

So far, a combination of just being damn careful with your address (such 
as using throwaways, and web-forms instead of mailto links), and 
Bayesian filtering, looks to be the best bet IMHO.  Being careful has 
reduced my spam count from the hundreds per day I get on some old 
addies, to the few a week I get on a few dozen current ones all put 
together.  (That even includes THIS one, which is on publicly-accessible 
unaltered web archives.)  And that\'s with *no* filtering at all....

-- 
David J. Aronson, Spamfighter since 1994
Work: http://destined.to/program
Play: http://listen.to/davearonson

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