Probably because people who are influental outside their organization should
be curtailed. Say it's sufficient that you respect their opinion, and also
know that they have enough to do that they should be giving rough opinions
for actual voting members to ponder at length (i.e. read it once vs 3
times). I don't think the IAB chair will feel offended or second class for
that matter. Again I think Harald put it best, if they want to the should
be, but I just don't think they need the burden.
-Tom
thomasgal(_at_)lumenvox(_dot_)com
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[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
Behalf Of Steve Silverman
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:43 AM
To: Geoff Huston; Wijnen, Bert (Bert); ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: AdminRest: IASA BCP: Should IAB chair be a
voting member of IAOC
It would seem to me that being a non-voting member is being a
second class member of the group. Given the relative lack of
importance to voting in the IETF, it is not obvious to me
that any person who is expected to participate in discussions
should be excluded.
In particular, one (at least I) would not expect the IAB
chair to be particularly irresponsible.
Can anyone explain why certain positions are non-voting?
Steve Silverman
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[mailto:ietf_censored-admin(_at_)vesuvio(_dot_)ipv6(_dot_)tilab(_dot_)com]On
Behalf Of Geoff
Huston
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 2:30 AM
To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert); ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: AdminRest: IASA BCP: Should IAB chair be a
voting member
of IAOC
At 02:53 AM 14/11/2004, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
Margarets draft-wasserman-iasa-bcp-01.txt states (bottom
of page 7):
There will also be two non-voting, ex officio liaisons:
o The IAB Chair
o The IETF Administrative Director
[Note: There is some question about whether the IAB
Chair should be a
liaison or a full member of the IAOC. There are
multiple trade-offs
here, and this should be discussed by the community.]
During the Plenary last wednesday there were
suggestions/proposals to
make IAB chair a voting member.
That makes a lot of sense to me
Geoff Huston
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