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RE: Why people by NATs

2004-11-22 20:01:55
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Richard Shockey wrote:

> I think the problem the Internet Engineering community has had is that
> we have not taken out to lunch  some of our friends in Economic Theory
> who would help us understand the IPV6 adoption problem for what it is
> an economic not a technical issue.

Yes deployment will be gated by economic factors. The problem the IETF and
the transit network operator community keep overlooking is that the economic
costs are not down in the plumbing. The costs are in application development
and end system/lan administration.

This is an excellent point that focuses on the real issue of economics. If these inhibitors can be more specifically quantified I'd feel a lot more hopeful that one could create a pricing model that drives demand.

So you would say the transit operators will not SELL the product since the customer ( end user and or enterprise) cannot support it or they cannot afford the upgrades to existing edge infrastructure (Cisco, Juniper, usual suspects, MS etal ) necessary to support the transition?

Part of the problem of course is the false perception .. perpuated by countless commentators that NAT's are a better security measure than firewalls.

I still think V4 to V6 pricing for numbering will and should play a role.


Once the application development
community recognizes that it is cheaper for them to build over IPv6 than to
retain small armies to develop nat workaround hacks or deal with the
additional support costs from that complexity, and that through tunneling
they don't have to wait for lethargic operators to move first, there will be
plenty of economic motivation for deployment.

Well the good news is that SIP principally among other new and emerging realtime applications driven by explosive residential broadband deployment is forcing the issue.



The frog is in the pot and the water temperature is rising. Given the
general state of denial it is likely that the water will boil before the
dead frog wakes up to notice.

Well if the frog is V4 let it cook ...


Tony




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