On 1/13/05 at 1:34 PM +0100, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
I believe #739 is a matter that requires ISOC to form an opinion
I agree; ISOC must suggest the mechanism by which they will agree to
this "partnership".
it is not something that the IETF needs to come to consensus about,
and it should not affect the text of the BCP.
I completely disagree, and I think it is not at all bourne out by the
discussion on the list. There was disagreement by some of us as to
what specific mechanism ISOC should bring to bear on this (and I
agreed with the proposal that ISOC should be solicited for that
mechanism and the IETF should come to consensus on whether that
mechanism was acceptable). However, I don't think there was any
disagreement (including from Brian) that text needed to be added of
the form:
"This BCP will take effect upon adoption of the BCP by the IESG and
the concurrent <<insert thing that ISOC does which codifies in some
interesting way the adoption of the relationship by ISOC>>"
The open (and I believe still open) argument is:
As Brian Carpenter said:
I'm not saying a bylaw change would be a bad thing, in due time.
But ISOC can get a Board motion through in about 2 weeks, whereas a
bylaw change takes several months. Making it a prerequisite would
cause us to lose precious time.
And the ISOC BoT has plenty of stuff on its plate just caring for
the rest of the effects of this process, if I understand Steve
Crocker correctly.
I personally don't believe that a resolution is a sufficient
mechanism for codification of this on the ISOC side. I made the
suggestion of a by-law change, and I'm not convinced of the "takes
several months" (though I'm willing to hear some convincing arguments
as to why that should be the case). I'm willing to hear about other
codifying mechanisms. I can't speak for others, but I suspect there
are others in the same boat with me.
I suggest that we close this ticket as "no change required" - the
issue will not be forgotten, but it should not affect this document.
I object to this entirely.
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