On Thu, 2005/04/07 (MDT), <blilly(_at_)erols(_dot_)com> wrote:
Date: 2005-04-06 12:45
From: "Alex Rousskov" <rousskov(_at_)measurement-factory(_dot_)com>
As others have pointed out, nroff (or MS Word, etc.) fans can still
submit their drafts using the Toolset (as currently defined); they just
will not submit their sources.
Which implies, for the case of documents where figures (etc.) differ
in PostScript/PDF and plain text versions, that there will still be a
substantial amount of manual effort required. See draft sections 1 & 8.
Can you clarify what requires what effort? I have a feeling you are not
talking about the Toolset here (as it does not require extra effort) but
IETF requirements to supply plain text format if there is a PDF/PS format.
I do not see where nroff comes in here.
Generation of text, PostScript, and PDF from single troff source is not
only feasible, it is de rigeur.
Great (and I think the same can be said about XML sources).
It seems silly to specify a toolset
purportedly to provide benefits of automation, but not to specify
automated processing of a widely-used source format which is quite
amenable to automated processing.
From [my interpretation of] the Tools team point of view, the nroff source
format is not or will not be used widely enough to include it in the
initial Toolset specs, especially since nroff-using authors can still use
the Toolset as specified and benefit from automation the Toolset provides.
If you disagree, you have at least three options:
(a) Raise the issue with IESG. Demand that the Submission draft is not
published until nroff support is explicitly included by the Tools team.
(b) Raise the issue with IESG. Send specific Submission draft changes to
support nroff. Demand their inclusion.
(c) Publish "Requirements for nroff support in the Draft Submission
Toolset" RFC.
My biased recommendation is to use a non-confrontational option (c).
Alex.
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