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Re: Last Call: 'Email Submission Between Independent Networks' to BCP

2005-06-14 11:27:35
Folks,

We were asked to fill out a draft form as part of the IETF submission 
process, 
to provide background about the spamops effort.  

The form seems useful as input to the public discussion, as well as the iesg 
discussions.

A copy is located at:

  <http://mipassoc.org/spamops/request%20for%20BCP%20status.txt> 


This status file claims that the document in question has had "Multiple
references to the document in the IRTF's ASRG and the retained ietf-
smtp mailing list."  I took the trouble to search my archives of the
ietf-smtp mailing list, and found exactly four mentions of that
document title or ID.

The first two mentions were a question about one particular aspect of
version -00 of that document, and one reply to that specific question.
These were one year ago.

The second two mentions of the spampos document were in a discussion 
of the SPF draft, and didn't actually discuss the spamops document.

While the claim in the status file is true on its face (there really
were multiple "references" to the document) one should not infer that
the document has actually been discussed on the ietf-smtp list, because
no significant discussion or review has taken place there.  In
particular, the ietf-smtp list does not seem to have been explicitly
asked to review the document, even though that is the de facto place to
discuss uses of and extensions to SMTP.

Frankly, it's hard to see this as other than an attempt at an "end run"
around the SMTP developer community.

Keith


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