On 02:04 07/08/2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ said:
> Yes and not ... Real large scale deployment trials only started in
> 2001-2002, and it was already using production space. Then we had
commercial
> deployment, at that time mainly in Asia Pacific and Europe.
>
> I will say that IPv6 experimental stage was over around 2002-2003,
specially
> looking at vendors support. Of course, this always depend on "your own
> hands-on experience" ;-)
Dear Jordi,
There could be many criteria to say IPv6 is operational. Mine is that at
this (st)age of IPv6 deployment a SME (we absolutely need them to push and
pay for IPv6 acceptance) should be able to:
- subscribe an IPv6/IPv4 ADSL access
- put a bootable CD in a new machine with a Wi-Fi router plugged on the
ADSL line
- answer a few well documented questions
- and get its server running under Apache, with a xxxmail working as pop,
smtp, mailing list and anti-spam, their named operational and reasonable
anti-virus, firewall, network management, log reporting tool,
backup/restore, security alarm solutions being in operation and full Perl
and PHP support for network scripts being loaded.
I have the ADSL line and IPv6/IPv4 address for three months. I am still
looking for a trustable "dog food" cann: an ISO to dowload, CD to Fedex, a
compact nomad version on a bootable USB key? May be then the IETF could a
copy: not to test it, but to show it can be used. I know you made a lot of
practical efforts: did you come accross of such a dog foot? I would love to
test!
jfc
On 09:44 05/08/2005, Iljitsch van Beijnum said:
Hi,
Yesterday in the plenary in response to a request for making the IETF
servers IPv6-capable, I believe Leslie said we shouldn't use IETF
servers for testing.
In and of itself I fully agree with that statement. However, the
assumption that IPv6 is an experimental protocol and enabling it on
the various IETF servers should be considered "testing" isn't exactly
a glowing endorsement of 10 years of IETF work.
It sounds distasteful, but we should really be eating your own dog food.
Limiting myself to the www.ietf.org webservers (yes, this address
points to two different hosts) it appears this site runs on:
Server: Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat)
Server: Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.0.40 OpenSSL/ 0.9.7a
Even though these Apache versions are 2 - 3 years old (with many
vulnerabilities found and fixed in the mean time), they're fully
capable of supporting IPv6, as are Red Hat Linux versions of around
the same age.
It would be a nice way to mark 7 years of RFC 2460 (or 10 years of
RFC 1883, both were published in december) and the closing of the
IPv6 wg with addition of IPv6 to at least the IETF WWW servers.
(BTW a big "yuck" for being behind two-faced DNS here at the IETF
meeting venue.)
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