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Re: Dog Food (was "IETF servers aren't for testing")

2005-08-06 18:56:36
Dear Jordi,
- put a bootable CD in a new machine with a Wi-Fi router plugged on the
ADSL line

I've got a dualstack router livecd under development, at the request of
the (showing signs of life) ISTF and ISOC board, for use in 3rd world
deployment.  Time is limited though, as I am on the road at the moment.
The solution is complete, I have deployed it several times, but always in
the form of "set up a basic debian system with v4 connectivity, and I'll
ssh in and do up a dual stack router."  It will take me a bit to finish
the distro...

Scott


- answer a few well documented questions
- and get its server running under Apache, with a xxxmail working as pop,
smtp, mailing list and anti-spam, their named operational and reasonable
anti-virus, firewall, network management, log reporting tool,
backup/restore, security alarm solutions being in operation and full Perl
and PHP support for network scripts being loaded.

I have the ADSL line and IPv6/IPv4 address for three months. I am still
looking for a trustable "dog food" cann: an ISO to dowload, CD to Fedex, a
compact nomad version on a bootable USB key? May be then the IETF could a
copy: not to test it, but to show it can be used. I know you made a lot of
practical efforts: did you come accross of such a dog foot? I would love to
test!
jfc

On 09:44 05/08/2005, Iljitsch van Beijnum said:
Hi,

Yesterday in the plenary in response to a request for making the IETF
servers IPv6-capable, I believe Leslie said we shouldn't use IETF
servers for testing.

In and of itself I fully agree with that statement. However, the
assumption that IPv6 is an experimental protocol and enabling it on
the various IETF servers should be considered "testing" isn't exactly
a glowing endorsement of 10 years of IETF work.

It sounds distasteful, but we should really be eating your own dog food.

Limiting myself to the www.ietf.org webservers (yes, this address
points to two different hosts) it appears this site runs on:

Server: Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat)
Server: Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.0.40 OpenSSL/ 0.9.7a

Even though these Apache versions are 2 - 3 years old (with many
vulnerabilities found and fixed in the mean time), they're fully
capable of supporting IPv6, as are Red Hat Linux versions of around
the same age.

It would be a nice way to mark 7 years of RFC 2460 (or 10 years of
RFC 1883, both were published in december) and the closing of the
IPv6 wg with addition of IPv6 to at least the IETF WWW servers.

(BTW a big "yuck" for being behind two-faced DNS here at the IETF
meeting venue.)

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