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RE: Last Call: 'Proposed Experiment: Normative Format in Addition to ASCII Text' to Experimental RFC (draft-ash-alt-formats)

2006-06-15 13:15:56
This effect may well be the result of the difficulty of getting the draft 
through the process.

It is painful enough dealling with the editing process without having the 
additional complication of having two documents. 




-----Original Message-----
From: Henrik Levkowetz [mailto:henrik(_at_)levkowetz(_dot_)com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 3:29 PM
To: Joel M. Halpern
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Proposed Experiment: Normative 
Format in Addition to ASCII Text' to Experimental RFC 
(draft-ash-alt-formats)

Hi,

on 2006-06-15 19:52 Joel M. Halpern said the following:
I would also observe that there is significant evidence 
that there is 
not a real problem here.

It seems to me that if there was a real problem with the graphics, 
that folks would be publishing RFCs with PS or PDF forms, even if 
those were not normative.
For the thousand RFCs starting with RFC 3000, there are  4 PS and 4 
PDF documents.  In total, assuming that those are for different 
documents, that is still less than 1% if those RFCs 
published in that 
time period.

I know some folks are vocal that there is a problem.
But, the evidence suggests otherwise.

Oh, *good* point.

In contrast, the evidence suggested for judging the experiment is 
going to be very limited, very subjective, and heavily 
influenced by 
the fact that the target are folks who are presumably particularly 
interested in a positive outcome.

This experiment is a bad idea.
I am sorry that this is not "constructive" input.  But 
sometimes the 
right answer is "no."
We already have provision for people to publish pretty 
pictures when 
they think that is helpful.
If lots of folks do that, and if we conclude that those 
PDFs are more 
useful than the text documents, then we would have 
something to discuss.

Agreed.  Thinking some more about this, the lack of 
inter-document links seem to be a complaint that I hear much 
more often than the lack of good graphics support.


Regards,

      Henrik

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