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Re: IESG Statement on Spam Control on IETF Mailing Lists

2008-04-14 20:22:46

On 2008-04-15 00:35 Ned Freed said the following:
On 2008-04-14 23:11 Ned Freed said the following:

I guess I should be flattered, but really, I fail to see why. Guaranteed 
bypass
of moderation is simply an allowed-poster whitelist.

So it seems to me that you've failed to see the problem.

Anybody who considers themselves a valid poster is supposed to be able to
bypass moderation, challenge-response and spam-filtering.

I see nothing in the requirements that says this supposed to be possible as a
unilateral action on the part of the poster. That's clearly preposterous - it
should go without saying that whitelisting arrangements are just that:
Arrangements. The requirements leave open how such arrangements are made; IMO
that's entirely appropriate.

This would also
include a spammer who considers himself a valid poster.  At the same time,
the IETF lists MUST provide spam control.  I see this as a contradiction in
the announced text.

Only if you engage in a VERY creative reading of what's there.

In other words, if one is not already on a whitelist, how does one get on
to it, automatically, without moderation and challenge-response, while
spam-filtering is still provided?

And there's that word "automatically". There is nothing in the text that says
such arrangements have to be automatic.

                                Ned
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