John C Klensin <john-ietf(_at_)jck(_dot_)com> writes:
However, the IPR WG, in its wisdom, has concluded, in some phrasing
that was changed fairly late in the game, that the IETF Trust should
get enough rights in I-Ds to authorize all sorts of subsequent uses of
them and their content, with no time limit.
You have claimed this before, but I don't understand it. RFC 2026 says
that the IETF receives a fairly broad license to do anything it wants
with all contributions, see section 10.3.1:
l. Some works (e.g. works of the U.S. Government) are not subject to
copyright. However, to the extent that the submission is or may
be subject to copyright, the contributor, the organization he
represents (if any) and the owners of any proprietary rights in
the contribution, grant an unlimited perpetual, non-exclusive,
royalty-free, world-wide right and license to the ISOC and the
IETF under any copyrights in the contribution. This license
includes the right to copy, publish and distribute the
contribution in any way, and to prepare derivative works that are
based on or incorporate all or part of the contribution, the
license to such derivative works to be of the same scope as the
license of the original contribution.
As far as I can tell, this quote says the opposite of what you claim,
and I'd like to understand where I fail to understand.
I assume you don't think of RFC 2026 as fairly recent.
Are you disputing that RFC 2026 license gives the IETF rights to
continue working on contributions?
Are you disputing that the term "contribution" covers I-D's?
Are you saying that RFC 2026 contains some other text that imply that
after the 6 months timer as timed out, the license above doesn't hold?
Is your objection that the Trust is now authorized to grant uses outside
of the IETF process?
That phrasing passed through IETF Last Call and IESG signoff and is
the context in which the Trust is now writing rules. It seems to me
that, if the IETF (through the Trust) is going to be in a position to
grant rights to use material in I-Ds forever, and if rights to use
code in I-Ds (even for the first time) don't expire after six months
or some other closed period, then, logically, we are obligated to keep
the IPR disclosures forever.
Agreed.
/Simon
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