On 2008-12-14 05:12, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 08:12:17 -0800 Eric Rescorla
<ekr(_at_)networkresonance(_dot_)com>
wrote:
At Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:49:09 +1300,
Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 2008-12-13 08:20, Russ Housley wrote:
...
Process are clearly already available, but the contributor is required
to obtain the additional rights that are required by RFC 5378.
Formally yes. But the Trust can take the sting out of this by
a vigorous effort to get former contributors to sign over the
necessary rights, and by providing a convenient method for
this to be done.
Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this helps, because
we have no tracking of all the contributors to those previous
documents. So, how can the contributor know that all forme
contributors have executed those additional rights grants?
I would expect the original authors' agreement to be sufficient to
cover this, with any residual text fragments from unnamed contributors
being considered fair use. IANAL.
Additionally, I think the major problem isn't with active contributors, but
with people who are inactive/unreachable.
Sure. I won't let this ruin my day, but I do expect the Trust to
add some appropriate waiver text to the outgoing license, so that
I can submit recycled text under RFC5378 with a clear conscience.
On 2008-12-14 09:05, Scott Brim wrote:
You can improve any technology you want, modulo IPR -- that's not the
point here. The problem is taking existing copyrighted text and using
it as a base for describing your technology.
But remember, it's only a problem for doing so *outside* the IETF
process (which is why it's the Trust's outgoing license that has
to deal with this).
Brian
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