"Donald Eastlake" <d3e3e3(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> writes:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:30 AM, Simon Josefsson
<simon(_at_)josefsson(_dot_)org> wrote:
...
If you are updating a pre-RFC 5378 document that contains trademarked
words, it isn't sufficient for the old contributor to have signed the
IETF Trust form if the document contains trademarks. You need to
contact him anyway, to get permission to reproduce the trademark.
/Simon
You should consult an attorney but, as far as I know, at least in the
US, there is no magic permission needed to "reproduce" a trademark.
Usually trademarks are to indicate the source of a product or service
and as long as you don't mislead people about that, you are fine.
Then what use does section 3.4 of RFC 5378 serve?
3.4. Rights to Use Trademarks
Contributors may wish to seek trademark or service mark protection on
any terms that are coined or used in their Contributions. The IETF
makes no judgment about the validity of any such trademark rights.
However, the IETF requires each Contributor, under the licenses
described in Section 5.3 below, to grant the IETF Trust a perpetual
license to use any such trademarks or service marks solely in
exercising rights to reproduce, publish, discuss, and modify the IETF
Contribution. This license does not authorize the IETF or others to
use any trademark or service mark in connection with any product or
service offering.
It was co-authored by the IETF attorney, so I suspect it is intended to
serve some purpose.
If it serves a purpose, contributors needs to get the necessary right
and be able to transfer it to the IETF Trust in order to submit a
contribution. As far as I understand, that would involve talking with
the old contributor if trademarks are involved.
/Simon
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