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Re: Ietf Digest, Vol 9, Issue 25

2009-02-09 18:40:34
http://www.fsf.org/news/reoppose-tls-authz-standard

While I have a lot of sympathy for the cause, I have very little
sympathy for the methods.
Rendering a mailing list that might be useful for actually resolving
the issue inoperative by a "campaign" is idiotic.
Somebody from I* (the IETF chair may not be the right person this
time) should call them and explain that this is not the way to win
friends and impress people.

Gruesse, Carsten

PS: kill-filing messages CCed to campaigns(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org might help a 
bit.
I don't know if the procedures allow to do this at the mailing list
level.

Dear Carsten: (And others who feel upset at the recent development)

As someone who's been a (mostly silent, but frequently reading) member
of this mailing list, I can understand your concern.  However, can you
propose a better way for them to contact members of the IETF?

... do you propose that they attend our next in-person meeting?  It's
infeasible for most people.  This mailing list was, if I am not
mistaken, intended to further discussion among peers for the
betterment of the protocols and standards of the internet.  Their
comments, while they are many, reflect an opinion on how it can be
made better: or at least, how it can be prevented from becoming worse.

I agree with their opinion, and as such I included my own statement of
discontent with the possibility of the draft becoming a standard... I
have my own reasons, which I stated, but I agree with the idea... and
I feel that their having posted in this place is appropriate as well.

If you can think of a better place for them to post their ideas
directly to the task force, I'm sure everyone would be glad to hear
it... but for most people (myself included) who cannot come to the
twice yearly in-person meetings, this mailing list is the best most
people will likely ever get.

Sincerely,

Alex Loret de Mola
Lead Software Engineer, iScan Services
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