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Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions) to BCP

2009-06-01 11:31:59
Joel,

However, the devil is in the details.
As I understand it, the reason for calling the extra note "exceptional" is that the IESG has in the past sometimes used that note to place far more pejorative language than you suggest, in places that it really does not belong. That can turn a reasoanble publicaiton request into a political fight.

That's true. However, I think that 3932bis (any version) is already supposed to reduce that problem, by not having standard, default pejorative language.

The changes in -07 relate to the frequency of notes and their content. I'm not sure the frequency matters for avoiding the pejorative language problem. If the IESG puts in bad language, they can do so both in -06 and -07... if you want to solve that problem you need a couple of things: first, remove the bad default language. Second, provide a better instruction on what the note, if any, should contain. I think -07 is an improvement in this respect, because it now talks about the relationship of the RFC to IETF and pointers to standards track specifications. Third, the IESG folk simply need to have good judgment about using the notes. And if they don't, Nomcom should hear about it...

Jari

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