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Re: Last Call: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis (IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream Submissions) to BCP

2009-06-01 15:43:35


--On Monday, June 01, 2009 21:47 +0300 Jari Arkko
<jari(_dot_)arkko(_at_)piuha(_dot_)net> wrote:

As written, this violates provisions of RFC 4846 as well as
some of the language in the current RFC Editor Model draft.
The IESG may _request_ that notes or other language be added.

Indeed -- thanks for catching this. It should say "may choose
to request" or some words to that effect.

Either that, or Russ's wording, would be fine with me.

I believe that the bottom-line principles here are:

        (1) As above, the IESG requests that the ISE do things;
        it does not insert text or require that text be inserted.
        
        (2) Regardless of whether words like "exceptional"
        appear, the expectation should be that the typical
        independent submission document (or other
        non-IETF-stream document) will contain only the stream
        identification and whatever statements about review and
        consensus go with it, per headers and boilerplates.
        Requests for Additional statements should be unusual and
        very specific to the circumstances of a given document.
        
        (3) There are no statements to the effect that something
        is not an IETF-stream documents or, for that matter, not
        the Constitution of Lower Slobbovia.  I don't think
        those need to be formally prohibited (partially because
        I have no idea how such a rule would be written) but I
        would hope that the ISE and RSE would ignore any such
        request.

My impression has been that all three of those principles had
already achieved consensus, either on the RFC-Internet list or
in the process of reviewing and approving other documents.  Of
course, that impression could be wrong or the broader community
could have something else to say.

best,
   john

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