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Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-07-01 18:43:23
How do you translate the .nroff formatted document to a readable text
document?

Can emacs do that for you?

/Stefan



On 09-07-01 9:10 PM, "Donald Eastlake" <d3e3e3(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:

I just do my drafts in nroff and edit with emacs.

Donald
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 Donald E. Eastlake 3rd
 d3e3e3(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:22 AM, Stefan 
Santesson<stefan(_at_)aaa-sec(_dot_)com> wrote:
To respond to the original question.

For what it is worth, I have written a simple and free tool in java for
editing (and viewing) drafts using nroff, which I find a lot easier and
convenient than XML.

It's available from: http://aaa-sec.com/nroffedit/index.html

Source is available upon request.

/Stefan


On 09-06-28 6:33 PM, "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljitsch(_at_)muada(_dot_)com> 
wrote:

Hi,

XML2RFC isn't working for me.

For instance, We are now required to use boilerplate that the
"official" version of XML2RFC doesn't recognize so it's necessary to
use a beta version that is even more undocumented than the regular
undocumentedness of the "official" version of XML2RFC. Of course such
things tend to only surface the day of the cutoff.

I used to write drafts by hand sometimes in the past, but this is also
very hard, because today's tools just don't have any notion of hard
line endings, let alone with spaces at the beginning of all lines and
hard page breaks (at places that make no sense in an A4 world, too).

This is getting worse because the checks done on IDs upon submission
are getting stricter and stricter.

See
http://www.educatedguesswork.org/movabletype/archives/2007/11/curse_you_xml2
r.
html
  for a long story that I mostly agree with.

As such, I want to see the following:

- the latest boilerplate is published in an easy to copy&paste format
- drafts may omit page breaks
- drafts may omit indentation and hard line breaks
- no requirements for reference formats

Note that this is for drafts in general. If the RFC editor wishes to
impose stricter formatting rules I can live with that.

Please don't reply with helpful hints on how to work with XML2RFC.
Even with a perfect XML2RFC I would still be forced to create XML,
which is something I desperately long to avoid.
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