Re: draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis and the optional/mandatory nature of I

On Sep 2, 2009, at 7:20 PM, John C Klensin wrote:

> We simply
> require that, if the ISE receives input from the IESG requesting
> specific changes to a document ("specific changes" including,
> but not limited to, so-called "IESG Notes") and the ISE and
> authors decide to not incorporate those proposed changes, the
> ISE is required to explain to the IESG, in writing, why not and
> allow a reasonable period of time for the IESG to respond.  If
> it felt it were necessary, the IESG could then open a further
> discussion, ask the RSE to mediate, or launch a formal request
> for IAB review.  Consistent with other provisions in RFC 4846,
> either the IESG or the ISE could, at their discretion, make the
> correspondence (the request and response) public.


I think it is more than reasonable to expect documented communication  
if a request from the IESG is not honored by the ISE. I also think it  
is reasonable to expect such decision to be appealable/reviewable and  
that all the communication is timely.
So yes, I support this, in fact I take this for granted.

I believe that difference of technical opinion follows RFC 4846 sect 5  
(which is about publishing or not publishing). The denial of a note  
from the IESG is a dispute between streams that follows RFC 5620  
4.2.1. I can see that there could be some argument about which  
procedure to follow but in the end the RFC Editor (the RSE in this  
case) will make the final decisions based on various recommendations  
(that is how both 4846 and 5820 are written).
--Olaf (no hats)

--Olaf


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Olaf M. Kolkman                        NLnet Labs
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http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/               1098 XG Amsterdam

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