Well, that's part of the problem in answering the survey ...
Doing half a question is not a good question !
If you ask me, you want to got to Vancouver or Quebec, but you don't inform
about the possible venues, it is USELESS, because I may have preferences
depending on the venue itself (for example fitness facilities).
If you ask me, about China, but don't provide the venue (same question as
per Vancouver/Quebec) and the city (flight cost/combination) may me to take
a different decision.
Regarding the question of the China specific issue, I've been there for
several meetings, and never got a problem.
But despite my preference, and my willingness to go to China, I believe is
unfair, to complain about the US issues if everybody will need to get a visa
for China. So in the case we opt for that option, definitively the average
cost for each attendee should be lower enough to compensate for the extra
cost of obtaining the visa (so let's say, the hotel cost 20% lower than in
US), AND we need some warrantee that the visas will not be denied ... (I'm
assuming that China doesn't deny visas, but someone may have a different
view).
BUT PLEASE, next time you start a thread like this, a survey or whatever,
provide ALL the information, and not just bits of info. Otherwise, please,
avoid the noise and extra time slices from everybody.
Regards,
Jordi
From: Ole Jacobsen <ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
Reply-To: Ole Jacobsen <ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:47:47 -0700 (PDT)
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
Cc: "ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org" <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>, Yaron Sheffer
<yaronf(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com>
Subject: Re: China venue survey
Cullen,
Well, nobody has officially announced that the proposed venue is
Beijing, although a lot of people seem to have assumed so and yet
more people copied the assumption. The announcent of the venue
is expected soon, within say 30 days.
But to the core of your question: The rotation would normally put us
in Asia, so you can think of Vancouver as a backup plan. We're not
really asking you if you prefer Vancouver over X city in China (at
least not in this survey).
Ole
Ole J. Jacobsen
Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal
Cisco Systems
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On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Cullen Jennings wrote:
Given that the the current Location for IETF 79 is listed as Canada/China,
the
correct questions to ask is would people prefer IETF 79 be in Vancouver of
Beijing.
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