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Re: [recipe] Smart Grid "Bar BOF" Slides

2009-11-12 06:10:47
Fred:

your email seems to have been delayed for 24h within the IETF mailers so Iam only replying now - too late for the meeting itself. (although a clash of previously arranged conference calls also made it impossible to follow the meeting remotely :- ( )

I find the fact that NIST has asked IETF about its opinion great and am really thrilled by it. This is bound to produce great advance. I've studied all presentation material this morning and one thing which struck me was the question of IPv4 vs. IPv6. We can rule IPv4 out right away. As you know, there was a recent flurry of activity on ARIN's public policy mailing list (PPML) regarding the use of IPv4 addressing for Smart Grid. In particular, any mass allocation of IPv4 addresses on the scale of Smart Grid, would exhaust the remaining ARIN IPv4 address space within a few months. There ensured a debate about the fairness of banning IPv4 use for certain categories of organisation.
IMHO, Smart Grid on IPv4 is a non starter. Technically & policy-wise.
Indeed, perhaps can we use Smart Grid to be an enabler for IPv6 implementation?

In the meantime, I look forward to feedback/minutes about the meeting I missed.

Warm regards,

Olivier

--
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
http://www.gih.com/ocl.html

----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Baker" <fred(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
To: "Polk, William T." <william(_dot_)polk(_at_)nist(_dot_)gov>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: [recipe] Smart Grid "Bar BOF" Slides


FYI - the slide decks in use for the Smart Grid "Bar BOF" are available at:
    ftp://ftpeng.cisco.com/fred/IETF-SG/

We will be running webex tonight, and slides are of course visible there as well.

On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Polk, William T. wrote:

[As before, my apologies for the shotgun nature of this email.]

Folks,

I would like to provide an update to the logistics and agenda for tonight's Smart Grid Bar BOF.

The Bar BOF will begin at 8:30 so that folks attending the plenary have a chance to grab dinner. Note that the meeting room will be Acacia West (prior announcements indicated Acacia 1).

Here is the current agenda..

Smart Grid Bar BOF Agenda
8:30PM - ?, Acacia West
November 11, 2009

I. Agenda Bashing (5 minutes)
       Tim Polk
II. Smart Grid Overview (15 minutes)
       Jim St. Pierre/Tim Polk
III. Japanese Interest in Smart Grid (15 minutes)
       Hiroshi Esaki
IV. Introduction to the IP Priority Action Plan (15 minutes)
       Tim Polk
V. Discussion of draft-baker-ietf-core (15 minutes)
       Fred Baker
       see http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-baker-ietf-core-04.txt
VI. Is the IETF the right place to do this work?
       Russ Housley
VII. How should the work be organized? (contingent on V.)
       Ralph Droms

Slides will be available via webex for remote participants, but we will be using the IETF streaming audio feed for sound. The URLs for webex access have been appended to this message.

The audio feed for this session will be streamed at the following URL:
        http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf762.m3u
Remote participants will not be able to speak, but can send comments and questions in the webex chat room.

Thanks,

Tim Polk

----- webex access details -----

Frederick Baker invites you to attend this online meeting.

Topic: Smart Grid Bar BOF in Hiroshima
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009
Time: 8:00 pm, Japan Time (Tokyo, GMT+09:00)
Meeting Number: 205 017 176
Meeting Password: smartgrid


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1. Go to https://ciscosales.webex.com/ciscosales/j.php?ED=128776942&UID=1209736217&PW=NYTMxMDcxYzMw&RT=MiM0OQ%3D%3D
2. Enter your name and email address.
3. Enter the meeting password: smartgrid
4. Click "Join Now".

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