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Re: China blocking Wired?

2010-01-12 17:49:39
Yeap, getting in/out China is pretty easy and fast. I once had to be in
Beijing for family emergency reason, and got the visa in Beijing airport.
Paid a little more, but it was pretty smooth. The airport search is no more
than what we have here in US.

Everything is OK. Nobody is going to bite. :-)


- Ping

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 6:51 AM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> 

I've lost count of the number of times I've been to China (somewhere
in the teens), and I'm sure that there are people on this list who've
visited China many more times than that. I've entered and left China
by air, by car (via Hong Kong), and by train (also via Hong Kong).
I've never once had a problem with either immigration or leaving, or
obtaining a visa. I've never once had my bags searched on either entry
or exit, except perhaps for the normal carry-on security check, which
is no different from anywhere else in the world. Frankly, I've
encountered more process when entering Japan than when entering China.

To get a visa, I recommend using a visa service such as CIBT (but
there are many others), which isn't inexpensive, but makes the process
relatively simple. Many employer's travel departments have agencies in
place, so check with your travel agent.

Dean had a question about currency conversion when leaving China.
Years ago, you had to show your receipts for purchased Yuan when
converting back to dollars; however, that hasn't been the case for a
while now.


On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 8:11 AM, Christer Holmberg
<christer(_dot_)holmberg(_at_)ericsson(_dot_)com> wrote:


I've been to China a few times, entering 2 different airports, and
personally I've never had any issues with immigration. It's always been
and without hassle.

No what-are-you-doing-here type of questions. No look-into-the-camera. No
put-your-finger-here. Only a quick look at the passport and a "Ok" :)

And, no checking of the luggage or questions regarding what stuff I'm
carrying. At least once I've had a couple of lap-tops with me.



From: "Spencer Dawkins" <spencer(_at_)wonderhamster(_dot_)org>
To: "Dean Willis" <dean(_dot_)willis(_at_)softarmor(_dot_)com>, "John C 
Reply-to: spencer(_at_)wonderhamster(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: China blocking Wired?
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I try not to follow up to postings on this topic, but since I can comment

Many of us have been to China multiple times. I am not aware of
anyone who has been granted a business or professional visa, and
who has gone and behaved professionally, having nearly the
problems with entry or exit that have been typical of the US in
recent years (even returning US citizens). I've encountered
some long lines, bad multilingual signage, and miscellaneous
confusion on occasion, but China clearly has no monopoly on

For example: As I understand it, one is allowed to bring only one camera
and one computer, not two of each. Will this affect camera-and- computer
loving IETFers? Possibly, if it's still true. Does the camera in your
cell phone count against the quota? How about the one built in a

Nope. I entered China in November (Shanghai, for an IPv6 transition
the week before IETF 76) with the same two computers that I usually carry
IETF meetings - my work laptop, and an ASUS netbook that I use to drive
projectors (which also has a webcam built in), and a cell phone that has
camera built-in, along with my camera.

I was admitted to China with no discussion of any of these items.

Past performance is not an indicator of future topics of interest, but
that's the way it went.


Spencer, who is amazed that the lines to enter the US from Matamoros are
longer than the lines to enter China in either Hong Kong or Shanghai...
move more slowly, even for US citizens!

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