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Re: Visas to China

2010-01-14 16:48:52


--On Thursday, January 14, 2010 20:44 +0200 Patrik Fältström
<paf(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> wrote:

FWIW: Not only China has that requirement.

Actually, while some are more careful about enforcing it than
others, _most_ countries have that requirement, even when they
don't require visas prior to arrival.

While there are exceptions, a passport that has less than six
months before its expiration date is primarily useful for going
back to one's home country (or treaty area), not for outbound
travel.

   john

On 14 jan 2010, at 20.01, Behcet Sarikaya wrote:

Just wish to remind people that China requires passports to
have at least 6 months before expiration during your visit.

This might mean renewing your passport before getting visas.

Regards,

Behcet



----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew G. Malis <agmalis(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
To: Fred Baker <fred(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
Cc: Ole Jacobsen <ole(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>; IETF-Discussion list
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org> Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 8:11:15 AM
Subject: Re: Visas to China

If you are a US resident, also note that China has multiple
consulates, and the consulate that you will use for your
visa depends on where you live. See this map for details:

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/t84229.htm

Cheers,
Andy

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
I'll echo Ole and Brian. In general, I find the Chinese
consulate/embassy not very demanding. If you have a
business reason for a multi-entry visa, get one, but in
general the standard tourist visa is simplest to get and
works fine.

Not advertising the service, but to give you an idea of
what it looks like, I'll point you at the web site of the
company Cisco uses for visas.
    http://www.peninsulavisa.com/russia-.htm
To get a visa to China, you need a visa application
(download from the web site) and a color "passport" photo.
If you go for a "business" visa, you need some
demonstration of the business. "business" implies you're
trying to sell something or staying there for an extended
duration; to attend a conference such as an IETF meeting
one generally gets a tourist visa. Some countries need
letters of invitation; I would expect the host will have a
facility up to get such.

The visa process at the Chinese Embassy is usually on the
order of a week; safety would suggest two. My multiple
entry visa will expire just before the meeting, so I plan
to file for a new visa sometime in October.

Interesting reading from the Los Angeles PRC Consulate.
  overview:
http://losangeles.china-consulate.org/eng/visa/chinavisa/t2
7606.htm tourist:
 http://losangeles.china-consulate.org/eng/visa/chinavisa/t
 27605.htm business:
http://losangeles.china-consulate.org/eng/visa/chinavisa/t2
7604.htm

Non-US folks should of course look at the web site of
whatever consulate is relevant to them for specifics of the
relations between China and their country.

On Jan 12, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:


Since Andy mentioned visas I would like to give some vague
and unhelpful advice :-)

It turns out that the DURATION of your visa depends on
what country you are from, and even what consulate or
embassy you apply at. In all cases the clock starts
running the day the visa is issued.

Real example: As a Norwegian, applying in San Francisco, I
was only grqnted a single-entry visa valid for 3 months. I
applied in March 2009 which was a mistake since the trip
didn't happen until August, so I would have had a visa
that expired sometime in June. They all say "must not
arrive after ". I was able execute an "undo" on this
particular occasion and came back again in July and
received a visa that covered the period of my visit.

Your mileage may, no, WILL, vary, so check the wiza
wizards, consulates, embassies etc. Fred Baker regularly
gets a one-year multi entry visa, but he's American and he
uses the visa brokers, something I clearly should have
done instead of foolishly applying too early.

The form has a box which asks when you intend to arrive in
China, but that information is NOT used to start the clock
for the validity of the visa itself, in some sense that
date isn't used for anything, at least as far as I can
tell.

How long you can stay in China again depends on what
country you are from and what kind of visa you have.

Ole


Ole J. Jacobsen
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Cisco Systems
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