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Re: US DoD and IPv6

2010-10-06 11:43:40

On Oct 6, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:

From: Keith Moore <moore(_at_)network-heretics(_dot_)com>

Do you actually have a point to make

That depends. Are you still of the opinion that IPv6 will, in our lifetimes,
become ubiquitously deployed, thereby restoring us to a world of transparent
end-end, or do you think we should acknowledge that that's not going to
happen, and start to think about how to design for a permanently mixed
Internet - and actually have that model in mind when doing protocol work?

Honestly, I don't think we can tell.  In the short term, it certainly doesn't 
look good for end-to-end transparency.    But unlike 10 years ago, today 
there's a widespread understanding of the problems caused by lack of 
transparency, and much less denial about it.

The central problem with the Internet seems to be that nearly everybody who 
routes traffic thinks it's okay to violate the architecture and alter the 
traffic to optimize for his/her specific circumstances - and the end users and 
their wide variety of applications just have to cope with the resulting brain 
damage.   (Admittedly there's a wide variation in _how much_ these people think 
it's okay to mess with transparency.)  

But I am not sure that that's the fault of the current Internet architecture, 
or that a different architecture would fare better.  I think it's fairly 
inherent in that people can always understand their specific circumstances 
better than they can see the big picture, and that most of the world's 
economies are biased toward short-term thinking (and thus, hill climbing / dead 
ends).

Keith


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