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Re: Last Call: <draft-salowey-secsh-uri-00.txt> (Uniform ResourceIdentifier (URI) Scheme for Secure Shell (SSH)) to Proposed Standard

2010-11-19 07:28:43
Hi Tom,

I'm guessing that you're really not subscribed, or that your filters are not doing what you expect. The draft is being discussed on that list.

Regards,
Chris

On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, t.petch wrote:

I am somewhat surprised to see this I-D launched straight into IETF last call.

Its predecessor, albeit with a somewhat wider focus, reached -04 in 2006 and I
commented thereon on the ssh list.  I see my comments have not been addressed in
the intervening four years, and think that this I-D would benefit from a further
review on the ssh list before proceeding further.  I note that the I-D includes

"   This document is discussed on the IETF SSH list: 
ietf-ssh(_at_)netbsd(_dot_)org"

which is patently untrue (I am subscribed to that list and have seen nothing
about this I-D on it; in fact, according to that web site, the list does not
appear to exist or have archives)

Tom Petch

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cullen Jennings" <fluffy(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com>
To: "The IETF" <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-salowey-secsh-uri-00.txt> (Uniform
ResourceIdentifier (URI) Scheme for Secure Shell (SSH)) to Proposed Standard



Several things in this draft surprised me a bit thought nothing looked
completely broken. I

You need an IANA registry for the parameters and a way new parameters get
added

Do you need to say anything about encoding when the host name is an IPv6
address?

It says the fingerprint is in 4716 format but the examples have ssh-dss in
them that does not look like that format. I would have expected they type of the
fingerprint to be on the left not the right of the equal sign so instead of


fingerprint=ssh-dss-c1-b1-30-29-d7-b8-de-6c-97-77-10-d7-46-41-63-87(_at_)host(_dot_)example
.com

I would have expected


md5-fingerprint=c1-b1-30-29-d7-b8-de-6c-97-77-10-d7-46-41-63-87(_at_)host(_dot_)example(_dot_)com

I was surprised to see the c-param added to the user instead of the right hand
side of URI

so Instead of
ssh://user;foo=bar(_at_)example(_dot_)com

I would have expected
 ssh://user(_at_)example(_dot_)com;foo=bar

I was surprised that the c-param required the equal so I can not have a
parameter like  "useFooMode" but must instead have a parameter like
"useFooMode=1"

I'd be interesting hearing the logic or why the "//" - I'll point out XMPP,
SIP, email, etc don't see to have this

GIven a major use of SSH is SCP, I wish this URI worked for file paths as well

The draft says
  This document is discussed on the IETF SSH list: 
ietf-ssh(_at_)netbsd(_dot_)org

I realize that was the list for the closed WG but I don't think that is an
IETF list. It is not under IETF rules and is not
listedhttp://www.ietf.org/list/nonwg.html. I would highly suggest moving the
conversation to an IETF list.


On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:58 AM, The IESG wrote:


The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'Uniform Resource Identifier (URI) Scheme for Secure Shell (SSH)'
 <draft-salowey-secsh-uri-00.txt> as a Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org mailing lists by 2010-12-15. Exceptionally, comments 
may be
sent to iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org instead. In either case, please retain the
beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-salowey-secsh-uri/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-salowey-secsh-uri/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
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