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Re: External IPR Disclosures vs IPR disclosures in the document.

2011-06-22 15:05:25
see RFC 3979 section 4 A - a note like Mike asks for is called for

but the other Scott is also right - do not be specific - see section 11 of the 
same RFC

Scott

On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:56 PM, Michael StJohns wrote:

At 11:42 AM 6/22/2011, Scott Brim wrote:
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:11, Michael StJohns 
<mstjohns(_at_)comcast(_dot_)net> wrote:
A quick couple of questions to the list based on a document I saw recently.

If a document (an ID in this case) contains encumbered material (in this 
case consists of 90%+ encumbered material), and the document is authored by 
the organization (or members of the organization) that holds the 
encumbrance, should the document contain an IPR disclosure itself or is it 
sufficient to submit a IPR disclosure through the IETF web interface?

IPR statements are never put in RFCs unless on occasion they are
informational transplants from outside.  The IPR claims or other
aspects might change over time and the right place to track all that
is in the IPR disclosures.

Hmm.. even though this was labeled like a normal run of the mill ID, it 
really was an informational transfer from the outside - at least at this 
point in the process.  I.e. - single corporate author, long held IPR as 
opposed to "here's something brand new and never seen before and while parts 
of it may derive from work from company A, this use of it is new and people 
from company B and C are figuring out new ways to work with it."

I think tracking disclosures via the IPR system is reasonable for most 
documents, but something like "This document consists primarily of 
intellectual property claimed to owned by xxxx.  Please consult the IETF 
disclosures section for the current terms and conditions for this IPR." may 
be useful.    It's pretty hard to tell from any given document whether or not 
consulting the IPR disclosures is useful or somewhat necessary.

Not a big problem, I guess, but somewhat dissonant to the process.

Mike


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