On 17 Jul 2011, at 01:52, John C Klensin wrote:
--On Saturday, July 16, 2011 16:03 -0400 Ronald Bonica
<rbonica(_at_)juniper(_dot_)net> wrote:
A more likely interpretation is as follows:
"the IETF is not likely to invest effort in the technology in
the future" "the IETF does not encourage (or discourage) new
deployments of this technology.
Noting in passing that these sorts of statements are quite close
to the uses 2026 prescribes for Applicability Statements (and
for which we have even more precedent and oral tradition), if
the first of those is an adequate reason for identifying
something as historic, I recommend that we immediately move RFC
791 to Historic. Certainly we are likely to invest more effort
in the development of the technology. Now, some people would
read such a move as either an indication, as you suggest above,
that the IETF thought no one was using it any more, or that
there were no remaining valid use cases, etc., immediately
turning us into a laughingstock. But, by logic that suggests
moving 6to4 to Historic on the grounds that the IETF is not
going to invest effort in the technology.
Quite so. And with that, you've just ruined the best April 1 gag the IETF
could have hoped for, you. :-)
I stopped to consider, and do again, what exactly would prevent us from taking
such a radical course of action. Clearly, the view that making something
historic when it's in active use is offensive. No standards body could seek to
stand behind their specifications, or to give the impression of doing so, with
such a position. On the other hand, as you've shown, case-by-case analysis is
a good thing for document action on historic (or any other status), and there
are a body of cases where the merits of documents have not shown to be
sufficient for the IETF to consider it worthwhile improving. I wasn't about in
the early days of the IETF so I don't know anything about these oral traditions
you speak of, except to say that this is a case to be made for the force of the
written word.
BTW, I am among those not exactly thrilled about the idea of moving of 6to4 to
historic.
Cheers,
Sabahattin
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