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Re: Last Call: <draft-housley-two-maturity-levels-08.txt> (Reducing the Standards Track to Two Maturity Levels) to BCP

2011-07-29 10:14:18
Bob:

I generally support this proposal, but have some questions on Section 2.3, 
"Transition to a Standards Track with Two Maturity Levels".  I am both an 
author of several Draft Standards and have chaired working groups that have 
produced them.

  Any protocol or service that is currently at the abandoned Draft
  Standard maturity level will retain that classification, absent
  explicit actions.  Two possible actions are available:

  (1) A Draft Standard may be reclassified as an Internet Standard as
      soon as the criteria in Section 2.2 are satisfied.


What is the process for this?  Is the IESG going to review all Draft 
Standards.  Should authors and/or working groups propose a change of status 
as defined in the document?  Something else?  Most draft standards very 
likely meet most of the requirements listed in the document for Internet 
Standard.

Section 2.2 is pretty clear I think.  A request to reclassification must be 
sent to the IESG.

   ... The request for reclassification is sent to the
   IESG along with an explanation of how the criteria have been met.
   The criteria are:

   (1) There are at least two independent interoperating implementations
       with widespread deployment and successful operational experience.

   (2) There are no errata against the specification that would cause a
       new implementation to fail to interoperate with deployed ones.

   (3) There are no unused features in the specification that greatly
       increase implementation complexity.

   (4) If patented or otherwise controlled technology is required for
       implementation, the implementations demonstrate at least two
       separate and successful uses of the licensing process.


  (2) At any time after two years from the approval of this document as
      a BCP, the IESG may choose to reclassify any Draft Standard
      document as Proposed Standard.

I think this is unfair to the people who have done considerable work to get a 
document to Draft Standard.  I hope that the IESG would only do this after 
giving a lot of notice to the authors, appropriate working groups, and the 
IETF community to give them the opportunity to request advancement to 
Internet Standard. 

This was added after the discussion that Draft Standards could linger for a 
very long time.  Some people said that would not be a problem, and other people 
said it would be harmful.  I conclude that no one knows, so we should include 
the powers necessary to resolve the problems if they emerge.  If they do not 
emerge, there is no requirement that the IESG do anything.

I think this Section of the document needs to provide additional detail on 
how this should work.

I do not think we should add speculation about the potential problems to this 
document.

Russ

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