Dear Yaakov and Sasha,
I share your concern in regard to MPLS-TP-ness of MS-PW construct. It
was in my background thinking when I was querying Sasha and I think
that the "chimera" is quite proper characterization for MS-PW in
MPLS-TP.
Regards,
Greg
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Alexander Vainshtein
<Alexander(_dot_)Vainshtein(_at_)ecitele(_dot_)com> wrote:
Yaakov,
You've written
PW that starts in an MPLS-TP domain, can easily leak into a non-TP domain
This is exactly the point that I've raised in my IETF LC comment on the
draft (for MS-PW) - please see my email (to several lists) that explains
that in some detail, at
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pwe3/current/msg12581.html.
Regards,
Sasha
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From: mpls-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org [mpls-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
Behalf Of Yaakov
Stein [yaakov_s(_at_)rad(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:37 PM
To: stbryant(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com; Luca Martini; IETF Discussion
Cc: mpls(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; pwe3; iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
pwe3-chairs(_at_)tools(_dot_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [mpls] [PWE3] IETF Last Call comment on
draft-ietf-pwe3-gal-in-pw
Stewart
Was this email meant to address my email to the IETF discussion list (from
Tues 16 Aug)
or just the discussion on MPLS and PWE lists ?
It does to SOME extent, as it leaves open the possibility of the GAL not
being at BoS;
but it does not rule out that possibility either.
However, you did not address my other final comment that a PW that starts in
an MPLS-TP domain,
can easily leak into a non-TP domain.
What does one do then ?
(My email also identified a wording issue and what I consider to be a
completely inaccurate
explanation of what the draft is trying to accomplish.)
Y(J)S
From: pwe3-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:pwe3-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of
Stewart Bryant
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 15:05
To: Luca Martini; IETF Discussion
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; Vladimir Kleiner; mpls(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org;
Idan Kaspit; Mishael
Wexler; pwe3; iesg(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; Oren Gal; John Shirron;
pwe3-chairs(_at_)tools(_dot_)ietf(_dot_)org; Rotem Cohen
Subject: Re: [PWE3] [mpls] IETF Last Call comment on
draft-ietf-pwe3-gal-in-pw
Reviewing this discussion there are three components.
1) The update of RFC5586 to allow PW to use the GAL.
2) The PW OAM application that is to use the GAL.
3) The label stack structure when teh GAL is used with a PW
This draft is only concerned with point 1 above. Points
2 and 3 need to be resolved in any PWE3 draft that describes
the use of the GAL.
To that end the text in draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-tp-gal-in-pw-01
========
- Section 4.2. (GAL Applicability and Usage) in [RFC5586], the
original text:
In MPLS-TP, the GAL MUST be used with packets on a G-ACh on
LSPs, Concatenated Segments of LSPs, and with Sections, and
MUST NOT be used with PWs. It MUST always be at the bottom of
the label stack (i.e., S bit set to 1). However, in other MPLS
environments, this document places no restrictions on where
the GAL may appear within the label stack or its use with PWs.
is replaced by:
In MPLS-TP, the GAL MUST be used with packets on a G-ACh on
LSPs, Concatenated Segments of LSPs, and with Sections, and
MAY be used with PWs. It MUST always be at the bottom of the
label stack (i.e., S bit set to 1). However, in other MPLS
environments, this document places no restrictions on where
the GAL may appear within the label stack.
=====
should be replaced by
=====
- Section 4.2. (GAL Applicability and Usage) in [RFC5586], the
original text:
In MPLS-TP, the GAL MUST be used with packets on a G-ACh on
LSPs, Concatenated Segments of LSPs, and with Sections, and
MUST NOT be used with PWs. It MUST always be at the bottom of
the label stack (i.e., S bit set to 1). However, in other MPLS
environments, this document places no restrictions on where
the GAL may appear within the label stack or its use with PWs.
is replaced by:
In MPLS-TP, the GAL MUST be used with packets on a G-ACh on
LSPs, Concatenated Segments of LSPs, and with Sections, and
MAY be used with PWs. The presence of a GAL indicates that
an ACH immediately follows the MPLS label stack.
======
- Stewart
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