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RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-07 14:25:43
IMO it is a statement of principle going forward. As such it does not "fix" or 
"make go away" the current situation, but it would be an IETF consensus 
position on a way forward. And I agree with that position.

Lots of folks do proprietary deployments, squat on code points etc. That cannot 
be "fixed" either, but I do not believe in rewarding it.

Dave 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rolf Winter [mailto:Rolf(_dot_)Winter(_at_)neclab(_dot_)eu] 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 6:39 AM
To: David Allan I; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; mpls(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: 
<draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a 
Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

Dave,

could you be more precise about what you think the utility of this document is 
in this particular situation. I mean, what will its effect be in the current 
situation. What will change after this document has been published. It seems 
everybody believes the "situation" will be resolved once this document receives 
its RFC number. I cannot see that. Could you give me more detail?

Best, 

Rolf
 

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-----Original Message-----
From: mpls-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
[mailto:mpls-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf 
Of David Allan I
Sent: Donnerstag, 6. Oktober 2011 01:05
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; mpls(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: [mpls] R: FW: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam- 
considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution 
for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

I think it is unfortunate that we are in a situation where such a 
document has utility. But ultimately it does.

Therefore I support the publication of draft-sprecher...

D



MPLS Working Group,

Please be aware of the IETF last call as shown below. The document
was
presented for publication as an individual RFC with IETF consensus
and
AD sponsorship.

This draft is clearly close and relevant to the work you do, but
after
discussing with the chairs I came to the conclusion that it does not 
comment on the technical or process decisions of the MPLS working 
groups, and it does not attempt to make any technical evaluations or 
definitions within the scope of the MPLS working group. It is more 
of a philosophical analysis of the way the IETF approaches the "two 
solutions" problem with special reference to MPLS-TP OAM.

Thus, I am accepting the document as AD Sponsored rather than 
running it through the MPLS working group. My reasoning is that the 
working group has got plenty to do working on technical issues 
without being diverted into wider IETF philosophy.

As an AD Sponsored I-D it is subject to a four week IETF last call.
That is plenty of opportunity for everyone to comment and express 
their views. Please send your comments to the IETF mailing list as 
described below, or (in exceptional circumstances) direct to the IESG.

Thanks,
Adrian
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