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R: [mpls] FW: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-10-20 10:15:29
I do not support the publication of this draft.

As indicated by many technical comments already raised on this topic, what the 
MPLS WG has defined is not a single solution but encopasses a variety of 
incompatible options none of which meet the requirements of major transport 
operators. The draft is therefore technically incorrect unless the concept of 
"single soution" is defined as anything but what meets the requirements of 
major transport operators.

Looking at the precedents provided in the draft, I can see at least a couple 
which were a great market success (e.g., OSPF/IS-IS and SONET/SDH). I wonder 
whether the real motivaiton for the selection of a "single solution" as defined 
above is to manipulate the market to avoid MPLS-TP being as successfull as 
these precedents.

In order to make comments according to the "IETF tradition", my text change 
proposal is very simple: replace the whole document with the text provided by 
draft-fang-mpls-tp-oam-considerations. draft-fang-mpls-tp-oam-considerations 
provides considerations from operators that have field experience with large 
scale deployments of MPLS-TP which are more relevant that incorrect 
phylosophical considerations.

----Messaggio originale----
Da: adrian(_at_)olddog(_dot_)co(_dot_)uk
Data: 26-set-2011 23.57
A: <mpls(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Ogg: [mpls] FW: Last Call:     
&lt;draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.
txt&gt; (The    Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to     
Informational RFC

MPLS Working Group,

Please be aware of the IETF last call as shown below. The document was 
presented
for publication as an individual RFC with IETF consensus and AD sponsorship.

This draft is clearly close and relevant to the work you do, but after
discussing with the chairs I came to the conclusion that it does not comment 
on
the technical or process decisions of the MPLS working groups, and it does 
not
attempt to make any technical evaluations or definitions within the scope of 
the
MPLS working group. It is more of a philosophical analysis of the way the 
IETF
approaches the "two solutions" problem with special reference to MPLS-TP 
OAM.

Thus, I am accepting the document as AD Sponsored rather than running it 
through
the MPLS working group. My reasoning is that the working group has got plenty 
to
do working on technical issues without being diverted into wider IETF
philosophy.

As an AD Sponsored I-D it is subject to a four week IETF last call. That is
plenty of opportunity for everyone to comment and express their views. 
Please
send your comments to the IETF mailing list as described below, or (in
exceptional circumstances) direct to the IESG.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Subject: Last Call: <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> 
(The
Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational 
RFC


The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
the following document:
- 'The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM'
  <draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt> as an Informational
RFC

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
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Abstract

   The MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) is a profile of MPLS technology
   for use in transport network deployments. That is, MPLS-TP is a set
   of functions and features selected from the wider MPLS toolset and
   applied in a consistent way to meet the needs and requirements of
   operators of packet transport networks.

   During the process of development of the profile, additions to the
   MPLS toolset have been made to ensure that the tools available met
   the requirements. These additions were motivated by MPLS-TP, but form
   part of the wider MPLS toolset such that any of them could be used in
   any MPLS deployment.

   One major set of additions provides enhanced support for Operations,
   Administration, and Maintenance (OAM). This enables fault management
   and performance monitoring to the level needed in a transport
   network. Many solutions and protocol extensions have been proposed to
   address these OAM requirements, and this document sets out the
   reasons for selecting a single, coherent set of solutions for
   standardization.


The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations/

IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations/


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