--On Sunday, January 01, 2012 19:55 +0100 Bjoern Hoehrmann
<derhoermi(_at_)gmx(_dot_)net> wrote:
Among the goals of the Internet Standards Process are
"openness" and "fairness" and I would find these principles
grossly violated if the IESG would approve the document for
publication with the proposed changes applied but without
another Last Call. With another Last Call and if there is
rough consensus in favour of the changes, and that'd include
running code, then that's fine with me, regardless of whether
an intention to publish an Internet-Draft as RFC is
communicated to some obscure W3C mailing list, or who
communicates such an intention.
Björn,
For better or worse, the IETF tries to maintain close working
relationships with a number of other SDOs. While there are
exceptions, those relationships work best when we are willing to
go out of our way to be sure that everyone stays informed and,
in particular, that we don't appropriate their standards or
conventions and start making changes to them... and when they
reciprocate.
While different ADs handle it differently, we have also
traditionally made the assumption that authors requesting
individual submission publication have to take most of the
responsibility for making sure all of the ducks are lined up.
They cannot, for example, rely on a WG to do that (since there
isn't one) nor on IETF Last Call to spot everything that they,
who are presumably expert enough to have constructed the
document in the first place, should have spotted.
That said, I basically agree with what you have written above,
tempered by the understanding that I think it is in the IETF's
best interest (as well as just plain polite) to go to W3C and
say, repeatedly if necessary, "do you really, really, not have
anything to say about this?" We certainly expect the same from
other SDOs we work with and W3C has give us that courtesy on
some occasions when we have been slow to respond.
john
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