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Re: ITU-T Dubai Meeting

2012-08-02 16:31:16
On 8/2/2012 1:24 PM, David Conrad wrote:
On Aug 2, 2012, at 11:44 AM, jnc(_at_)mercury(_dot_)lcs(_dot_)mit(_dot_)edu 
(Noel Chiappa) wrote:
we should instead focus on the ways that the technical architecture of
the Internet creates control points that are vulnerable to capture and
consider ways in which those control points can be made capture-proof.

Agreed.

The challenge of course is that one of the simple/efficient mechanisms to 
implement desirable features (e.g., security, scalability, manageability) is 
to create hierarchies, but those very hierarchies provide control points that 
can (at least in theory) be captured.  The DNS root is one such, the proposed 
RPKI root is another.  Perhaps a variation of the Software Engineering 
Dilemma ("fast, good, cheap: pick two") applies to Internet architecture: 
secure, scalable, manageable: pick two?

If the ITU-T wants to also be in the business of handing out IPv6
address names then give then a /21 or a /16 and tell them to go
party.

I don't think this is what the ITU is after.  My impression is that the ITU 
is arguing that member states should get the /<whatever> directly.

I basically agree. It could have negative impacts on the routing, by 
impacting
route aggregatability, but it can hardly be worse that those bletcherous PI
addresses, so if it makes them happy to be in charge of a large /N, why not?

I believe the routing scalability risk lies not in the allocation body, but 
rather the policies imposed around the allocations.  That is, imagine a world 
of 200+ National Internet Registries instead of 5 Regional Internet 
registries.  If the government behind an NIR then decides that to use the 
Internet in their country, you must use addresses allocated by the NIR of 
that country, you then run the risk of having 200+ prefixes for each entity 
that operates globally.  This risk could be addressed if it didn't matter 
where you get your addresses, however that isn't true with the existing model 
and there are political pressures that would likely ensure that it would not 
be true in the NIR model.

There are also risks associated with upkeep of registration data, which is 
already a challenge with the existing limited set of registries.  I imagine 
this would get worse with more registries.

In addition to the very valid points that David made, there are also
other risks. Such as, if the national government is the only source of
IP addresses then they have much greater control over who can get on the
network in-country. And if all of the traffic from a given country is
coming into my country via the same prefix it makes it that much easier
to apply censorship, tariffs, etc.

The whole concept of a global network, with no centralized control, that
permits (nay, encourages) the free flow of information is anathema to
many national governments. They are desperate to choke that off, by any
means necessary.

Doug

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    I am only one, but I am one.  I cannot do everything, but I can do
    something.  And I will not let what I cannot do interfere with what
    I can do.
                        -- Edward Everett Hale, (1822 - 1909)

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