Hi John,
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At 01:25 28-11-2012, John C Klensin wrote:
This is, IMO, a consequence of our developing fancy tools and
then uncritically relying on them. A Jabber log or real-time
Etherpad may be, and probably is, a very helpful way to keep
real-time notes within a meeting but some WGs have substituted
nearly-unedited versions of them (especially the latter) for
minutes. They are not minutes, certainly not minutes as
Yes.
Nobody likes to write minutes. Very few people volunteer their free
time to do them (thanks to John Leslie for scribing the IESG
minutes). When there is a discussion about producing minutes people
come up with proposals for fancy tools. This is where someone says:
"Etherpad can do that". There is a moment of silence when somebody
finds out that there's nobody using Etherpad to take notes about
what's going on. Who would have thought that these fancy tools
cannot work without people? :-)
contemplated by RFC 2418, and I sincerely hope that the IESG and
the community push back on those "barely literate" notes before
there is an appeal against a WG decision or document approval
that is based, even in part, on failure of the WG to comply with
that 2418 requirement.
The community is too lethargic to push back on those "barely
literate" notes. One of these days there will be such an appeal.
Regards,
-sm