I've certainly been to BOFs where I might think "this is a new topic" to
discover that it's actually indistinguishable from a WG I just hadn't attended
before - the documents already exist, and the inner circle of who knows who is
already in place.
(The inner circle effect can be seen by examining minutes and seeing how often
people are identified just by forename, because anyone reading the minutes is
expected to know who's who in this group. Even the set of minutes Brian
recommended had one such occurrence.)
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Subject: Re: "IETF work is done on the mailing lists"
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I'm increasingly seeing a "paradigm" where the review happens _before_
adoption as a WG draft.
and one consequence is that the design gets done outside of the ietf
process.
randy
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