Yoav,
Yes, Saratoga started as a draft in the DTNRG (draft-wood-tsvwg-saratoga). We
carried the first bundles from space in 2008, and used our experience to
analyse failings in the bundle protocol. (See our "A bundle of problems" paper.)
Unfortunately, DTNRG wasn't chartered to do DTN research. It was chartered to
do only development of the bundle protocol as the one true solution to DTNs,
whick it wasn't.
In any case, IRTF groups can't standardise anything, just produce experimental
RFCs (though CCSDS was pushing for standardising bundling for itself last I
looked.)
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/dtn
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From: Yoav Nir [ynir(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com]
Sent: 22 April 2013 16:15
To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: <worley(_at_)ariadne(_dot_)com>; <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: Re: The Purpose of WG participants Review (was Re: Purpose of IESG
Review)
Well, there isn't a delay tolerant networks working group, but the IRTF has a
DTNRG ( http://irtf.org/dtnrg ).
At least one of the chairs is a "goer". If you really wanted to standardize
this, wouldn't you be able to find 1-2 people on the DTNRG list who would be
willing to "do the BoF thing"?
I'm not saying this is definitely what you should do. There are plenty of
reasons to bring something to the IETF and to not bring it. I'm only saying
that it is possible.
Yoav
On Apr 22, 2013, at 3:12 PM, l(_dot_)wood(_at_)surrey(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk wrote:
And the technology that my team is pushing would be Saratoga:
http://saratoga.sf.net
which has interoperable implementations that can do 50Mbps in perl, a decade
of operational experience in its application domain, and mature drafts.
But this is in the transport area, and TSV has somewhat limited resources, so
it's outside the span of attention from a wg. But still worth documenting as
experimental.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
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From: Yoav Nir [ynir(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com]
Sent: 19 April 2013 10:02
To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: <worley(_at_)ariadne(_dot_)com>; <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: Re: The Purpose of WG participants Review (was Re: Purpose of IESG
Review)
Only that you know enough people so that you could push a new technology even
without attending, although you would need to collaborate with some people
who do go. But pushing a new technology requires team building anyway.
The same should apply to other non-attenders who have gained some reputation.
On Apr 19, 2013, at 11:23 AM, l(_dot_)wood(_at_)surrey(_dot_)ac(_dot_)uk
wrote:
and the point of your ad-hominem argument is what, exactly?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/publications/internet-drafts
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From: Yoav Nir [ynir(_at_)checkpoint(_dot_)com]
Sent: 18 April 2013 15:18
To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: worley(_at_)ariadne(_dot_)com; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: The Purpose of WG participants Review (was Re: Purpose of IESG
Review)
Looking in Jari's statistics site, you have three RFCs. One of those has
several co-authors that I recognize as current "goers". You also have a
current draft with several co-authors, but I have no idea whether they're
"goers" or not. Anyway, you are not a hermit. Through the RFCs and drafts
that you have co-authored, you know people who do attend.
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