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Re: IETF Diversity Question on Berlin Registration?

2013-04-28 23:05:50
At 08:53 PM 4/28/2013, Margaret Wasserman wrote:



The question that people are asking is why the diversity of the IETF 
leadership doesn't reflect the diversity of _the IETF_.

Let's consider for a moment that this may not actually be the correct question. 
 Instead, consider "Why the diversity of the IETF leadership doesn't reflect 
the diversity of the set of the IETF WG chairs"?  I believe this is a more 
representative candidate population for the IAB and IESG.  

By my count (using the WG chairs picture page), there are 202 current working 
group chairs. Of these 15 are female  - or 7.4% of the population [It would be 
more reliable to do this for any WG chair in the last 5-10 years, but the above 
was readily available and I think provides at least the basis for discussion.  
Anticipating the argument, I would assume for the sake of discussion a fairly 
similar percentage of ex-working group chairs per gender unless there is 
evidence to the contrary]

There are 14 (current area directors plus the chair) members of the IESG, of 
which none are currently female.

There are 12 current IAB members of which 1 member is female.

Assuming perfect distribution, that would suggest that 14 * (15/202) or 1.03 
IESG members should be female.

Assuming perfect distribution, that would suggest that 12 * (15/202) or .89 IAB 
members should be female.

Assuming perfect distribution, that would suggest that 26 * (15/202) or 1.93 
IAB + IESG members should be female. 

And pretending for a moment that picks for the IAB and IESG are completely 
random from the candidate set of Working group chairs, the binomial 
distribution for 7.4% for 27 positions is:

0 - 12.5%, 1 - 27.0%, 2 - 28.1%, 3 or more - 32.5%.  (e.g. about 40% of the 
time, the IAB and IESG  combined will have 0 or 1 female members).

for 7.4% for 15 positions  (IESG) is: 
0 - 31.4%, 1 - 37.8%, 2 - 21.2%, 3 or more - 9.5%

for 7.4% for 12 positions (IAB) is: 
0 - 39.6%, 1 - 38.1%, 2 - 16.8%, 3 or more - 5.4%


But the actual one you should consider is 7.4% for 14 positions (annual 
replacement):
0 - 34%, 1 - 38.1%, 2 - 19.9%, 3 or more - 8%.    

This last one says that for any given nomcom selection, assuming strict random 
selection, 72% of the time 0 or 1 females will be selected across both the IAB 
and IESG.  You should use this one as the actual compositions of the IAB/IESG 
are the sum of all the nomcom actions that have happened before.

There are statistical tests to determine whether there is a statistically 
significant difference in populations, but my admittedly ancient memories of 
statistics suggest that the population size of the IAB/IESG is too small for a 
statistically valid comparison with either the WG chair population or the IETF 
population.

Of course, the nomcom doesn't select and the confirming bodies do not confirm 
based on a roll of the dice.  
But looking at this analysis, it's unclear - for this one axis of gender - that 
the question "why the diversity of the IETF leadership does not reflect the 
diversity of the set of IETF WG chairs" has a more correct answer than "the 
luck of the draw".

My base premise may be incorrect:  That you need to have been a WG chair prior 
to service as an IAB or IESG member.  I hope it isn't as I think this level of 
expertise is useful for success in these bodies.    

Assuming it is correct, then the next question is whether or not there is a 
significant difference in percentage of female attendees vs percentage of 
female working group chairs and is there a root cause for that difference that 
the IETF can address in a useful manner.

Mike

 









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