Similarly, AFAICS the 'IESG time' includes IETF last call and the
inevitable delay caused by the quantized nature of IESG teleconferenes.
On the average, this will be somewhere around 28-30 days (2 or 4 weeks
in Last call according to document type plus an average of 1 week until
the earliest possible teleconference and a fudge factor for weekends)
which is an irreducible minimum imposed by our processes. There is not
much the IESG can do to help on that.
/Elwyn
On Fri, 2013-05-10 at 08:09 +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
On 10/05/2013 01:13, John C Klensin wrote:
--On Thursday, May 09, 2013 03:32 -0500 Spencer Dawkins
<spencer(_at_)wonderhamster(_dot_)org> wrote:
So in this case, we're looking at "RFC Editor state" =
"Heather, please do something" + "some working group, please
do something" + "author(s), please do something", and we can't
tell how much time to attribute to each of these ...
You could further add to that list "RFC Production Center,
please do something" (different from an RSE wait, which is, or
at least ought to be, more significant) and "IESG or appropriate
AD, please do something", which does happen.
But the RFC Editor's numbers try (almost always successfully) to
separate the two "waiting on the RFC Editor Function to do
something" (Heather plus Production Center plus, in principle,
Publisher) from the other states. Those other states could,
from their point of view, be aggregated into "stuck, someone
else's problem". If we are looking for issues with IETF
end-game process, we need to parse those, but that is a
different sort of question in terms of data-gathering and
reporting.
All of which suggests that, ideally, the tracker would include
a variable "onTheHook" for each draft, containing at all times
the person or role responsible for the next step. That isn't
necessarily implied by the state machine. For example,
AUTH48 doesn't always imply that the author is on the hook -
it may be that the author has asked the WG Chair to ask the
WG for a quick review of a proposed last-minute change. At
that point, the WG as a whole is on the hook.
Brian