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Re: Last Call: <draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01.txt> (The Internet Numbers Registry System) to Informational RFC

2013-05-15 18:51:23
On 5/14/13 13:32 , David Conrad wrote:
Hi,

On May 14, 2013, at 11:02 AM, David Farmer <farmer(_at_)umn(_dot_)edu> wrote:
The third goal you refer to focuses on the need for "accurate registration 
information ... in order to meet a variety of operational requirements."  I believe 
this to be a valid technical concerns of the IETF, it is difficult to imagine how a 
global Internet can technically function without this.  So, I think it is important for 
it to remain in the draft.

I would also point out that the third goal makes no statement on whether the 
registration data is publicly available or not.

However, issues of privacy, law enforcement access, and a myriad of other 
extremely important issues related to the Internet Numbers Registry System are 
outside the technical and operational scope of the IETF.  The whole point of 
the draft is to document the issues that are properly the concern of the IETF 
towards the Internet Numbers Registry System and to pass the rest of it to the 
multi-stakeholder environment of ICANN and the RIRs to hash it out.

Exactly. Section 4 notes that provision of "public WHOIS" has been a technical 
consideration and that "it may be necessary for the Internet community to examine these and 
related technical and operational considerations and how best to meet them."

I agree with everything you say above regarding public available of the registration data. However, at the same time Section 7, quoted below, makes a very strong argument for it to remain public.

"It is generally recognized that accuracy and public availability of Internet registry data is often an essential component in researching and resolving security and operational issues on the Internet."

So lets play a little hypothetical here; What if an RIR or ICANN through a global policy decided Whois Data no longer should be public for overriding privacy reasons. My read of Section 5, is that would be proper path for such a change, and long as the technical guidance of the IETF is considered in the process. But then through RFC 2860 and Section 5, if the IETF objected on technical or architectural grounds, and formally through the IESG, then the IAB would essentially adjudicate the issue. And ICANN or the RIR are obligated to accept the decision of the IAB. Do I have that right?

To be clear, I'm not advocating Whois should or shouldn't remain public, or that anything is wrong with the Section 5. This just seemed like a plausible hypothetical to explore how the puzzle pieces work together to make the Internet Numbers Registry System. Also, I just want to fully understand what Section 5 really means.

Thanks.

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