Hi Steve,
We shall ask the question, but I can already guess the answers. Current IEEE
rules (copyright rules I think) do not allow for sharing of work-in-progress
drafts with no access control. You need to be a participant of some sort in
order to access such documents, and this validated by the fact that you know
the username/password combination. These are IEEE, beyond the power of IEEE 802
to change.
As a chair who dealt with this for a number of years in the past I can bear
witness that this is not a huge task. The IEEE 802 entrusts the chair with the
username and password to access IEEE 802 WG documents. The IETF WG chair from
time to time will forward this information on a per request basis to IETF
participants who need access to the IEEE 802 documents.
Regards,
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of
Stephen Farrell
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 4:13 PM
To: IAB Chair
Cc: IAB; IETF
Subject: Re: Call for Review of draft-iab-rfc4441rev-04.txt, "The IEEE
802 / IETF Relationship"
A couple of minor comments:
- For some unfathomable reason IEEE people seem to call mailing lists
"reflectors" - that might be worth a mention. Section 4 otherwise seems
repetitive.
- 3.3.1.4 says: Since it is
possible to participate in IETF without attending meetings, or even
joining a mailing list, IETF WG chairs will provide the information
to anyone who requests it. However, since IEEE 802 work-in-progress
is copyrighted, incorporating material into IETF documents or posting
the username/password on mailing lists or websites is not permitted.
That's a pretty bogus setup. I would think that if IEEE do want to share
some or all drafts with us they could much more easily create a web page
when those drafts are available without access control.
Or we could if they didn't mind. (Or I could do it if there's no "we"
that wants to:-) Asking IETF WG chairs to deal with passwords is a bit
silly. I'm not objecting to this, but am suggesting someone ask IEEE if
they'd like to consider the silliness here and fix it.
S.
On 06/05/2013 07:50 PM, IAB Chair wrote:
This is a call for review of "The IEEE 802 / IETF Relationship"
prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC.
The document is available for inspection here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iab-rfc4441rev/
The Call for Review will last until 20 June 2013.
Please send comments to iab(_at_)iab(_dot_)org.
On behalf of the IAB,
Russ Housley
IAB Chair