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Re: IETF registration fee?

2013-07-11 17:25:31

I think that misses the point.

The WG sessions are where the issues are raised and the opinions and positions 
are stated.

Offline over the food and drink in small groups is where the detailed 
discussion and finding of solutions to resolve those issues usually takes 
place. 

Such a phenomena is not unique to just IETF - its the nature of the beast.

Andrew

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Moore [mailto:moore(_at_)network-heretics(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 04:19 PM Central Standard Time
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: Re: IETF registration fee?

On 07/11/2013 04:50 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Douglas,
...
Those traveling thousands of miles already confront many uncertainties.  
Those that elect to participate remotely should be afforded greater 
certainty of being able to participate when problems occur at local venues 
or with transportation.  Increasing participation without the expense of 
the brick and mortar and travel should offer long term benefits and 
increased fairness.
How much would you be willing to pay for remote participation
(assuming it was of high quality)?

Not much.   Remote participation misses the whole point of IETF 
meetings.   Sure, it's useful to be able to listen on WG sessions and 
make a comment or two.   But the WG sessions generally aren't actually 
worth very much, especially the way that they tend to be run these 
days.   The most important work gets done in the hallways and over food 
and drink.

So IETF is in this very strange position of supporting itself by 
charging a large amount of money for an activity that's mostly 
peripheral to getting useful work done.

Keith


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