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RE: Sunday IAOC Overview Session at the Berlin IETF

2013-07-16 06:38:37

AB

How many IETFs have you attended?
How many professional meetings have you organised?

Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/


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From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org [ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On 
Behalf Of Abdussalam Baryun [abdussalambaryun(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
Sent: 16 July 2013 12:26
To: Pat Thaler
Cc: Bob Hinden; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Sunday IAOC Overview Session at the Berlin IETF

Hi Pat,

Thanks. My concerns is that do we have a plan for disaster recovery/management 
in IETF or IEEE802. Including meetings which is the important time we come 
together for. Usually now organisations are looking into defining plans so the 
staff/participants are aware of procedures. I was thinking if I was to go to 
any organisation these days I will ask is there a plan and alternatives. 
Usually communication and information is the key to a better solution per 
person or per organisation. As IETF and IEEE802 standard communication 
technology then it is good if we have the best practice in the world.

AB
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Pat Thaler 
<pthaler(_at_)broadcom(_dot_)com<mailto:pthaler(_at_)broadcom(_dot_)com>> wrote:
One can't 100% protect against disruption from emergency situations.  I'm Vice 
Chair of IEEE 802 and there was a case where a venue became unavailable due to 
a disaster. In that case it was enough before the meeting that it worked as Bob 
described - the hotel chain worked with us to identify and contract an 
acceptable alternative.

On the other hand, the tsunami hit Japan just before the IEEE 802 Singapore 
meeting - close enough to it that some folks were in the air on the way to the 
meeting when it hit. Many attendees had travel disrupted and arrived late. Some 
even were unable to attend due to problems getting an alternative routing. 
Fortunately, enough were able to arrive so that we had an effective meeting, 
but it was difficult.  There are also cases where a wide spread weather 
disruption has caused problems for meeting effectiveness - e.g. a blizzard on 
the east coast of the USA.

Pat

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AB,
<snip>
- Is there an alternative venue if the venue was closed for any
emergency reason at any time? or only one plan so if the plan changes
there can be problems with the communities expected plan because they
were not aware of the needed information per time.

No, there is not an alternative venue under contract.  It isn't practical to 
have two venues under contract, build two networks, etc.  It is technically 
feasable, but would cause the registration fee to go up significantly to cover 
the extra costs.

If there was, for example, a fire at a venue months before the the meeting we 
would look for an alternate, but what happens would depend on availability of 
alternative venues.  We have good relationships with the hotel chains we use 
and they would work very hard to find an alternative venue, as would the 
effected venue.