Re: Remote participants, newcomers, and tutorials

On Jul 28, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Marc Petit-Huguenin <petithug(_at_)acm(_dot_)org> 
wrote:

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> On 07/28/2013 09:10 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
> > On Jul 28, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Keith Moore 
> > <moore(_at_)network-heretics(_dot_)com>
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> > > On Jul 28, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
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> > > > On 7/27/13 8:13 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > > > yup.  i guess it is time for my quarterly suggestion to remove the 
> > > > > projectors and screens.
> > > > Then I guess it's time for my quarterly "I'd be good with that."
> > > As would I.
> > Me too, as long as we get whiteboards or flip-charts in their stead.
> What about people at the back of the room who cannot see what you write on the
> whiteboard or flip-charts? (at least slides can be downloaded on laptop/tablet
> if too far from the projection screen)
>
> What about people following remotely?
There are some technological solutions, like electronic whiteboards, or cameras 
pointed at whiteboards/flipboards. Frame rate makes no difference.

Work is done through conversation. If we use a presentation, the conversation 
is scripted. I, the presenter, say stuff. You, the audience, can only reply. 
When we collaborate to develop something at work, we hardly ever do it with a 
presentation. Presentations work best for tutorial and for showing proposals.

> What about people who have difficulties understanding the speaker without some
> sort of context?
With some speakers, context doesn't help. Slides help bad enunciation. They 
usually don't help missing context.

> What about being able to understand the problem that will be discussed before
> the session, so to cut on the "thinking out loud" on the microphone?
That's what drafts are for.

> Do you have a presentation during IETF 87? (I already checked that Randy,
> Keith and Melinda do not).  I would be really interested to see how this could
> work.
I have three. I don't get a flip-chart, so I do have slide-sets. There is one 
5-minute thing that I'm going to do with hand-waving and no slides, but 
otherwise, I'm doing things the way that people expect them to be.

Yoav