On 8/21/2013 11:58 AM, Pete Resnick wrote:
AD hat squarely on my head.
On 8/21/13 1:29 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
Oh.  Now I understand.
You are trying to impose new requirements on the original work, many
years after the IETF approved it.
Thanks.  Very helpful.
That's not an appropriate response. It is certainly not helpful to me as
the consensus caller. And it is rude.
Since you've made this a formal process point, I'll ask you to 
substantiate it carefully and also formally.  The implication of your 
assessment is that IETF participants must not comment on the utility of 
comments by others.
I don't recall that being a proscribed behavior, since it has nothing to 
do with personalities.  So, please explain this in a way that does not 
sound like Procrustean political correctness.
For the record, I entirely acknowledge that my note has an edge to it 
and yes, of course alternate wording was possible.  However the thread 
is attempting to reverse extensive and careful working group effort and 
to ignore widely deployed and essential operational realities, including 
published research data.
A bit of edge is warranted for such wasteful, distracting and 
destabilizing consumption of IETF resources.  In fact an important 
problem with the alternate wording, such as you offered, is that it 
implies a possible utility in the thread that does not exist.
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net