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Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

2013-09-06 07:59:50
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On 9/6/13 1:47 AM, Adam Novak wrote:
On 09/05/2013 08:19 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Tell me what the IETF could be doing that it isn't already
doing.

I'm not talking about what implementors and operators and users
should be doing; still less about what legislators should or
shouldn't be doing. I care about all those things, but the
question here is what standards or informational outputs from the
IETF are needed, in addition to what's already done or in the
works.

I don't intend that to be a rhetorical question.

Brian

One way to frustrate this sort of dragnet surveillance would be to 
reduce centralization in the Internet's architecture. Right now,
the way the Internet works in practice for private individuals, all
your traffic goes up one pipe to your ISP. It's trivial to tap,
since the tapping can be centralized at the ISP end.

The IETF focused on developing protocols (and reserving the
necessary network numbers) to facilitate direct network peering
between private individuals, it could make it much more expensive
to mount large-scale traffic interception attacks.

+1. There's already work on things like MANET, but this seems a useful
avenue of work.

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/


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