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Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

2013-09-06 11:17:02

   
On 9/6/13 4:47 AM, Adam Novak wrote:
On 09/05/2013 08:19 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Tell me what the IETF could be doing that it isn't already doing.

I'm not talking about what implementors and operators and users should
be doing; still less about what legislators should or shouldn't be
doing. I care about all those things, but the question here is what
standards or informational outputs from the IETF are needed, in addition
to what's already done or in the works.

I don't intend that to be a rhetorical question.

      Brian

One way to frustrate this sort of dragnet surveillance would be to
reduce centralization in the Internet's architecture. Right now, the
way the Internet works in practice for private individuals, all your
traffic goes up one pipe to your ISP. It's trivial to tap, since the
tapping can be centralized at the ISP end.
    And all our security is based in single points that are easy to abuse.

/as

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