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Re: Bruce Schneier's Proposal to dedicate November meeting to saving the Internet from the NSA

2013-09-06 13:31:39

On Sep 6, 2013, at 8:07 AM, Eliot Lear <lear(_at_)cisco(_dot_)com> wrote:


On 9/6/13 3:04 PM, Martin Sustrik wrote:
So, what if an NSA guys comes in and proposes backdoor to be added to
a protocol? Is it even a valid interest? Does IETF as an organisation
have anything to say about that or does it remain strictly neutral?

It's happened before and we as a community have said no.  See RFC 2804.

What if they didn't say they were NSA guys, but just discretely worked a 
weakness into a protocol? What if they were a trusted senior member of the 
community?

That way lies madness -- but it is a madness we must contemplate. Broader REAL 
consensus, rather than apathetic agreement with a single contributor's 
assertions is probably the right way to go.

That means an increasing thrust on educating IETFers, broadly, about security 
issues. Not just the math, but the whole op-sec envelope.

--
Dean

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