On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Dave Crocker <dhc(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net>
wrote:
The usual focus in IETF discussions about meeting management is, instead,
about /how/ time is used, rather than how much of it, notably pressing to
avoid tutorial or reportorial content, instead focusing on discussion of
pending items, such as those creating an impasse.
The current arrangements are bogus.
Either cross-WG and cross area participation is useful or it is not.
Case One: Cross area participation is considered useful.
Make time for tutorial and introductory presentations because they are
essential if there is going to be cross-area presentation.
Case Two: Cross area participation is not considered useful.
Make WG sessions a day long and schedule 40 at once, don't expect people to
participate in multiple groups. Just like W3C does it.
I find tutorials very useful because most often the reason that a WG is not
going anyplace or about to make a security blunder it is because the people
involved really don't have a comprehensive grasp of what they are trying to
achieve and how.
There are many people who are very much focused on IETF process and getting
documents published. I don't care about the number of documents published,
I care about the number of people who read and take note of them.
So for example we are holding an opening WG for Trans. Let us imagine that
in one scenario we spend the whole meeting working on drafts and getting
them completed a meeting earlier than otherwise. And in a second scenario
we spend part of the meeting introducing the concepts and as a result get
buy in from the Microsoft or Apple rep who wasn't otherwise planning to
support TRANS because they had their own idea.
Which outcome is to be preferred? I know which I would take.
What might work rather better is if we start using this thing called the
Internet to do the tutorial type stuff. Drafts are good but they don't
necessarily communicate the message effectively. I can't really tell from a
draft whether someone is B/S or not but I'll know it pretty soon in a
presentation. So putting up tutorial type presentations on the YouTube is
one way to offload information.
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