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Re: A private club

2014-02-26 13:06:55
On 26/02/2014 21:34, S Moonesamy wrote:
...
I am not comfortable stating that there is consensus on an
Internet-Draft when participation is from a small number of individuals
having some affiliation in common.  That creates an appearance of a
private club.

But participation is open to everybody; if I don't choose to comment
on a draft, that is my problem, not the problem of those who do
comment. Nobody has ever told me that I am not allowed to comment.

It is difficult to convince someone who is, for example, from a
developing country that the IETF is a large open international community
when a quick look at
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/maillist.html shows
that there has only been participation from individuals from one or two
countries.

I'm sorry... which particular mail threads do you mean? Anyway, a
lot of comments come from a country called gmail, which you won't
find in the UN list.

I understand that it's hard for people to understand that there
is no barrier to speech in the IETF and that there is no secret
handshake.

On 27/02/2014 06:12, S Moonesamy wrote:

...
I think that some people would be surprised to hear what is said in private 
and what is said in public. 

Really? It seems to me to be a universal aspect of human behaviour
that people are more disciplined and careful when speaking in
public than when speaking in private. If my private opinion is that
some IETF work is "Yuck", "Pointless", or "Relatively harmless"
(examples from my private notes) I am unlikely to say so in public.
I would use more analytic language.

    Brian

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