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Re: Some Comments for Tutorial slides presented in IETF 89

2014-03-05 01:54:22
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:51 AM, Abdussalam Baryun <
abdussalambaryun(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com> wrote:


AB5- the slides consider how the IETF WG is created but not how IETF areas
are created. I don't think it is right that IESG should only be responsible
for creating IETF areas. The community should have voice in creating or
changing IETF areas.


The community has (or at least is supposed to have) a voice in any such
change.  As I understand it, there are actually very few things the IESG is
allowed to do without consulting participants.


I hope in future that each 5 years we get a message from IESG saying
IETF areas structure proposal (renew same, or restructure). That can be
done in one meeting may be better than the list.


I don't think setting a specific interval when such changes are allowed to
be introduced or affirmed is useful.

AB5- Slide 5, shows f2f (i.e. face to face) attendance of participants
which increased between 1996 to 2002, in average above 2000. That is a 8
year duration with many meetings per year (totally about 24 f2f event) with
numbers of about 2000 attendees and then decreased after 2002 becoming in
average above 1000 and less than 1500 attendees. IMHO, the community had
not continued to attend because of possible difficulties or high
probability of waste time, with slow production, also the diversity problem
that still IETF needs to fix.


I have to agree with Lloyd; I don't think those are the causes.

-MSK